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Vampirekittycat3172 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Wow, these are very helpful! Do you mind if you watch me?
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Lumdrop Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
This is pretty useful even for non-pony crap c:
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Catiacaterina Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
This is very helpful. Many thanks indeed.
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Dattebayo681 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
F*ck that, I came for the booty.

Thanks, though. Pretty insightful.
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Anatomy is fun, yo.
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SplashinginHappyness Featured By Owner May 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, they for this! I always need some good references!
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Paradoxelle Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Because people MLP, but few actually know how the equine legs work, and this is impacted by the fact that pony legs are pretty ambiguous about their leg shapes in comparison to actual equines. Your tutorials explain it very well and accurately on a level that those who don't know anything about real equines can understand, and I applaud you on that.
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, well thanks ^^
I try and make it simple, having easy rules to follow just makes it much easier when I draw. That's why knowing good anatomy is my #1 focus.
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TumblrBlaze Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was linked to this by someone on facebook who was trying to teach me better anatomy of the ponies and such. I'm sure this will help a ton, and I thank you for taking the time to make this. ^w^
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yay, I'm glad I could help! :D
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LisaWolf Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
Very impressive, makes a lot of sense.

As for where it got linked, no idea but a lot of artist and writers are interested in pony anatomy such as this.
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PonyCleverBlue Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, that explains everything!
Now... another question... are hooves made of ceratine or covered with skin?
rarity got hurt once she stabbed herself with needle
But when fluttershy bit her hooves, they seemed to behave like nails.
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not too sure. Maybe the outside edge is hard, and the direct underside of it is soft.
I'm no horse hoof expert, so I don't really know.
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PonyCleverBlue Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, it's not the RL anatomy we're talking about xD just what do you think :)
That might be quite good theory about edges and middle. 
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MedusaArt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Having a stuffy of one of the characters is pretty helpful, too. :)
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Orly? What's a stuffy?
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MedusaArt Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Student General Artist
A stuffed animal, a-doy. ;)
Eh, just my advice. I just know that my Rarity doll is really helpful for references to ponies. :shrug:
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Nazegoreng Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
This is really helpful! Thanks :)
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KasaixKaru Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Student Digital Artist
For me, the "skeleton" of a creature is easily visualized by watching them move. So three seasons later, I could draw ponies in my sleep :icononionxdplz:
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep! The fact that it's more or less consistent with the anatomy of most 4-legged creatures helps too. Once you know one, then you know them all. :D
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Stupid question: why is it that some people can't visualize this anatomical structure as easily as some of us? :?  Because, even for me, it appears to be a no-brainer, but I can't understand how some folks will get it wrong on their first try...  Must be just me ^^;
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Oddwarg Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I first really started drawing animals when I was about 13 years old. Figuring out everything on my own, it took me a year or so before I had an epiphany about how legs work, even though I've been living with cats all my life. I guess I had an immature mind and hadn't really paid much attention to my surroundings before this.

I feel what you're saying though. I think the problem is most people just never think about it until it's brought up. It is unreasonable to expect people to mentally explore every concept, even when it's kinda obvious when you get down to it.
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Kind of like how the brains of introverts and extroverts are different physiologically.
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AbyssalEmissary Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Just like Whatsapokemon said, it is all about knowledge. If you see a pony in the show or on a picture there are almost always not enough informations to identify the complete anatomy. And not everyone knows the (not completely realistic!) anatomy of ponies by default. Most people even don't know human anatomy. And most people also don't know about other everyday things like how a computer works, physical relations and so on.


Additonally, every brain is different and not everyone can analyse or understand a construction (like a pony e.g.) just from the beginning by only looking at it. I bet you encountered difficulties as well with other things like perspective, lighting or something completely unrelated to drawing. That's just normal diversity. :)

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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, that's why I knew I was asking a stupid question in the first place :XD:  It was just something rather... deep-rooted in me that I HAD to ask the 'why' questions, even though they need not to be elaborated.  Other times, on a philosophical level, I feel as if there isn't enough 'why' questions for some of the important things in life, y'know?

I still can't get my head around correct perspectives, that's for sure ^^;  Animals seemed rather natural to me for some reason...
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AbyssalEmissary Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

I wouldn't really call it a stupid question. The answer may be somehow obvious, but on a second look can be complex and lead to new perspectives. And new questions. :) So these "why" questions absolutely have their right to exist. Not only for me as a budding natrual scientist, but for all those important things in life that you already mentioned.


As for me I was always good in technical drawings including perspectives, but struggled a bit with organic shapes. Redraw what I see was not a problem (especially when it is our fat tomcat ^^), but creating own natural and organic shapes felt pretty difficult. Always interesting to see this distinctions and contrasts. :)

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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, the 'why's' is something I feel we don't ask in general when it comes to human-caused tragedies; nobody seems to ask the culprit(s) who caused the problem as to why they did it in the first place, they just go straight to the blaming them and don't bother understanding their motivations (and it gives Jack Thompson more reasons to attack the video game industries :roll:).

Hence why we need to share tutorials on how to perceive organic and non-organic subject matters when drawing ;)
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AbyssalEmissary Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Thinking about the "why" is difficult and needs the will and ability to allow other opinions and ideas (at least for the time of the analysis). Indeed a lot of people seem to be overstrained by this (and sometimes there is just no reasonable explanation). One of the reasons, I think, why tabloid press is so popular.


But we wander from the subject that initially was drawing ponies. :D

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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sowwy ^^;
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's probably to do with actual knowledge of the anatomical structures. If they don't know how many joints there are, and which ways they bend it's very easy to make mistakes.
It's not something that usually comes up every day, so many people just don't know how legs actually behave and how they actually fit together.
Personally I can't visualise it very well at all, I need to draw out the bones before I'm able to do it, but knowledge of how they fit together makes that easy.
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Or it's somehow similar to what ~AbyssalEmissary said about how some of us are more privy to animal anatomy while others, like me, suck at perspective ^^;
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. Knowledge of anatomy is all about observation and learning. If you spend enough time studying it then you're going to get better at it.
Similar to perspective, if you spend enough time working with it and trying to figure it out you get better at it.
Neither of those things are innate knowledge, it's all about what you get used to.
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
True that, but...  It's just that I feel there IS no source of vanishing point in my view because it's all over the place :XD:
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The vanishing point is pretty arbitrary, but you choose it such that parallel lines converge towards the same point. Usually it goes towards the horizon line. When you're trying to do perspective on a more complex thing than a box it's useful to draw a box around it so that you know how much to shrink and foreshorten things.
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That much I got, but it's just my trouble is knowing how far apart SHOULD the vanishing points be at without making it too surreal, y'know?
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Vanishing points are pretty easy to pick if you have a horizon line. You just pick one straight side, and extend it aaaaall the way out until it hits the horizon. Where they meet that's your vanishing point. You repeat this for every set of parallel lines. Just pick one of them, and then use that point to do the rest of them.
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nothing111111 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
what did you draw at first and for how long?
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Cats, for practically all my life.  I felt I got the hind legs down, but it wasn't until my early adulthood life (20s and up) before I figured out the forefront arms, treating the scapula as an additional bone to the entire arm., if that very sentence makes any sense ^^;
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nothing111111 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
makes, but listen to yourself: "for practically all my life"
i and a lot of other people have been drawing for way shorter amount of time so we have every right to not understand some anatomy right?
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, you DID ask when I started drawing, and I can't remember that far back other than what my mom told me :XD:  I started drawing seriously when I was in 5th grade when Calvin and Hobbes discontinued in the newspapers.
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nothing111111 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
well, what does the first sentence have to do when what you said is kinda obvious?
i started drawing 4 years ago for example, and considering how many failures i had in the meantime i think i can draw pretty well for that amount of time.
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I just find it weird, is all :shrug:
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nothing111111 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
open your mind a little more my friend and it will all make sense
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NoteSwift Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I thought initially this was a joke talking about the bottom half of pony anatomy and as a result showing a certain...image...
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Butts!
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AbyssalEmissary Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good work. This knowledge is important when drawing other things than ponies just standing there. :) For me it becomes difficult when you draw unnatural poses like overstreched ponies or ponies standing only on their hind legs (my present challenge) as the knowledge of anatomy doesn't really help any more.
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep, if you know the actual anatomy instead of just "patterns" then you can use it in any situation you require.
Knowledge is power!
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DeadEyeReaper Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
Wow this'll come in handy, thanx
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Whatsapokemon Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hope it can help ya! :D
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ShallowNate Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
So many artists mess up the legs. I've seen a lot of single jointed pony legsies out there.
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